KRUGMAN (NOBEL) AVVISA : LA CRISI SARA' A L. LE ASPETTATIVE DEL PRESIDENTE DEGLI STATI UNITI E DI TUTTI I POLITICI SONO SBAGLIATE!
Krugman Worries about L-Shaped Recession
Krugman domenica avvisa: Gli Usa potrebbero mostrare qualche segnale di crescita nella seconda parte dell'anno, ma il tasso di disoccupazione non scenderà.
"There are two kinds of recessions that are bad - those that take place because of financial crises, and those that are synchronized around the world," he said. "In both cases, the recessions tend to last longer and be deeper. Right now, we've got both going on."
Q: What will it take to pull out of this crisis?
Krugman: I'm in the camp that really worries about the L-shaped recession. We level off but we don't get the recovery. We hope it isn't, but it has all the markings of it. This looks like the kind of slump that has all the markings of where normal recovery forces are very, very weak.
It's hard to see where recovery comes from. Almost always the way a country recovers from a financial crisis is with an export boom. The problem is that we have a global crisis this time. So who are we going to export to, unless we find another planet to take our stuff?
KRUGMAN (NOBEL) AVVISA : LA CRISI SARA' A L. LE ASPETTATIVE DEL PRESIDENTE DEGLI STATI UNITI E DI TUTTI I POLITICI SONO SBAGLIATE!
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21 commenti:
Io continuo a sperare che la crisi sia ad L L'unica alternativa è una crisi ad I e sinceramente non mi piacerebbe!!!!
zio
La crisi ormai sarà ad I, caro Zio. Troppi soldi stampati, disimpegno della Cina....
Il Folletto
Ma che modello matematico usano per prevedere una crisi ad L,a U o a V, almeno i metereologi usano un paio di equazioni differenziali per descrivere i fenomeni atmosferici, questi economisti dicono tutto e il contrario di tutto, per alcuni la ripresa potrebbe esserci nel 3 trimestre per altri nel quarto o ancora più avanti, a volte ci prendono altre volte no, non c'è un modo matematicamente valido per vedere nel futuro della crisi?
Cero che tutti si basano su modelli matemateci. Basta mettersi in contatto con loro e ve li daranno. Non credo sia compito del mio sito ....parlare di modelli statistico matematici
Dott. Barrai mi scusi non c'entra niente ma potrebbe dare qualche parere riguardo l'aumento di capitale di snam?
Grazie
Salvatore
Krugman afferma che solitamente i paesi escono da una crisi esportando, bisognerebbe ricordare ad Obama che ci sono molti paesi in cui si può esportare un po' di democrazia
Se ci sarà un nuovo minimo sui mercati si comprerà nuovamente a buon prezzo, se non ci sarà un nuovo minimo si lascieranno correre le posizioni aperte (chi le ha aperte), comunque vada sarà un successo, non capisco tutto questo pessimismo sembra che si debba morire da un momento all'altro, invece tutto va avanti male come sempre.
Si, perché no? Una sana politica bushiana è proprio quello che servirebbe!!!!! Esportare democrazia, anche con la forza, liberismo sfrenato...... Berlusconi era perfettamente d'accordo e lo amava! Ora asseriscedi concordare perfettamente con la politica obamiana. Che abbia capito tutto?
Daniele Ferri
secondo me si fa un'inversione a U e via, i mercati è da luglio 2007 che sono visibilmente in calo, le crisi più lunghe se non ricordo male sul sole24ore dicevano che durano in media 22 settimane, ormai ci siamo, ma non credo in minimi più profondi di quelli che già ci sono stati, quasi sicuramente i titoli finanziari a meno di fallimenti tipo lehman dovrebbero solo migliorare, per gli altri titoli già a questi prezzi mi sembrano scontati inoltre sono stanco delle posizioni short aperte già da fine febbraio 2009, meglio cambiare no?
sarà anche a L vabbè...ma i mercati fra una settimana saranno almeno un +10% aleno dico più in alto di ora...sempre io. Stefano
il Botswana ha deciso di tagliare metà della produzione di diamanti previsti per il 2009,a causa della riduzione della domanda mondiale.Dal sito www.al-monte.com
snam e' da evitare salvatore. lascia perdere. per dirla con una battuta sono alla canna del gas....compra tenaris lunedi' (o mettile nel portafoglio virtuale e guardale salire vedi tu) ed anche a2a (idem per portafoglio virtuale).
ps : io odio il grande fratello e vado short giovedi' prossimo...maggio sara' pazzerello ma non rifaremo i minimi.
Krugman presenta analisi di natura matematica da quando la crisi è iniziata...le sue non sono opinioni, ma convinzioni dettate da calcoli precisi, ma le variabili oggetto dei calcoli si modificano di continuo per effetto dell'intervento dei vari governi...chissà che non sia stato ascoltato, non a caso aveva giudicato i primi piani di Obama come insufficienti, è un dato che sono stati rafforzati sul piano dell'entità numerica.
IL DUCA
Certo che:
se l'influenza suina diventa una pandemia;
se l'economia è in crisi;
se il pakistan nucleare va in mano ai Talebani;
se l'iperinflazione parte,
i quattro cavalieri dell'apocalisse sono sopra la nostra testa....
Caro Folletto, io la penso come te ma auguriamoci di sbagliare.... perchè non scrivi qualche post e me lo mandi mi piacerebbe pubblicare il tuo pensiero....
ciao
zio
The Future of Gold
Mises Daily by Naufal Sanaullah | Posted on 1/26/2009 12:00:00 AM
The historic wealth destruction of 2008 was obviously deflationary. Defaults strip away wealth. Institutions respond by selling assets to raise capital. Widespread deleveraging leads to supply expansion in assets and contraction in money and credit. Deflation.
Nevertheless, the response has been unprecedented in its own right. Government debt held by the public was $5.51 trillion when September began; by the end of 2008, it had risen to $6.37 trillion. The more than $1 trillion expansion in Treasury borrowing surely partially serves to offset the $438 billion budget deficit. But what about the additional half a trillion dollars?
On September 17, the Treasury announced the creation of the "Supplementary Financing Account" in the Federal Reserve. This is a capital reserve in the Fed financed by the Treasury selling new debt, but its excess capital is "trapped" and does not immediately reach currency in circulation. As of January 2, $259 billion is in this cash pool and $365 billion counting the Treasury's "General Account." The capital itself is money borrowed by the public, so its immediate net effect is deflationary.
On top of that, the Fed in an unprecedented gesture has started incentivizing excess bank-reserve deposits by issuing interest on these holdings, trapping liquidity. The Fed is essentially issuing debt, and banks are engaging in what amounts to a dollar-based Fed vs. interbank carry trade. Banks borrow money from the Fed, deposit it back into the Fed, and profit from the differential between the federal-funds and overnight rates. Less than $40 billion a year ago, the excess reserve deposits held by the Fed have ballooned to $860 billion. These deposits comprise another huge pool of excess liquidity on the Fed's balance sheet that doesn't immediately affect circulated currency.
Another Fed-induced cash trap has been in the form of increased reverse repurchase agreements, which are up to $88 billion. Reverse repurchase agreements are the offering of collateral in exchange for a cash loan. The Fed has utilized reverse repurchase agreements in its liquification of banks. It buys off toxic defaulting assets in exchange for cash and immediately reclaims the cash by selling the banks' T-bills. The Fed printed money to pay for these T-bills, so there is excess liquidity that is trapped in time-sensitive debt.
The Fed's risk transfer to the taxpayer is only worsened by its lack of transparency in doing so. The $2 trillion in lending is going to unknown places in exchange for unknown collateral. This leads me to believe the Fed has been busy buying up all of the toxic assets held by banks. This explains why it let the congressional bailout funds be used for equity purchases and not toxic debt. It hides the huge toxic-asset purchases — which it paid for with printed money — in its balance sheet's opacities. Bloomberg recently made a Freedom of Information Act request for details on bailout fund appropriations, but the Fed refused to comply and is being sued. This secrecy by the Fed in its appropriations of taxpayer money and the most-likely worthless collateral it exchanged it for represents inflationary risks the Fed is attempting to conceal.
The Fed's balance sheet suggests it has been cranking the printing presses like mad. Fed liabilities have expanded to $2.26 trillion, up over 140% since September. However, currency in circulation is up only 7% in that same time period. Where is this "trapped" $1.37 trillion? The answer is it's confined in temporary cash pools, whether in the Supplementary Financing Account or excess reserve deposits or in time-sensitive T-bills. The Federal Reserve seems to be sequestering all of this cash to buy time for the Treasury to finish its funding activities.
But who is going to keep funding this expansion of Treasury debt issuance? The American public is broke and cannot offer its capital in return for terrible yields. Foreign nations don't have the means or will to continue financing our debt. Commodity prices have collapsed, cutting deeply into foreigners' export revenues. Oil is down from highs around $150/barrel this past summer to around $40/barrel now.
In November, China announced a $585 billion economic stimulus package to be fully invested by the end of 2010. The Chinese government agreed to provide only $170 billion of the funds. How will China raise the other $415 billion for continuous use until the end of 2010? Surely, local governments and private banks and businesses can't finance such a large package in the midst of a historic recession.
The only reserve China can tap into to finance its stimulus package is its $1.9 trillion foreign exchange reserves, $585 billion of which is in US Treasury securities. Financing its stimulus package would require selling Treasury securities, but becoming a net seller of US debt could have disastrous economic, political, and even militaristic consequences for China, so it will be interesting to see how events unfold. What seems certain, however, is that China can no longer purchase more American debt to finance the US Treasury (and consequently the Fed).
This is a problem echoed by the rest of the big creditor nations. After China, the biggest holders of American debt securities are Japan, the United Kingdom, Caribbean banking centers, and OPEC nations. Japan is facing enormous headwinds as its quality-focused exports are suffering massive demand destruction as its consumers abroad lose wealth at epic proportions. Japan was a net seller of US Treasuries in 2008 and it is highly unlikely it will switch to being a net buyer anytime soon. The British demand for American debt represented Middle Eastern oil-financed investment, but with oil prices collapsing, it will be next to impossible for this proxy demand from the UK to rise and finance additional debt. The demand for US debt by Caribbean banking centers is because of their tax laws but as the credit crunch leads to liquidity destruction in Caribbean banks, these banking centers will no longer be able to buy additional debt. OPEC nations' US debt demand, similar to the UK's, is tied to Middle Eastern oil revenues financing American consumption (of their oil exports). As oil prices tank, so will OPEC nations' economies and they too will have no wealth to buy up more American debt.
Bernie Madoff is well recognized as the perpetrator of the biggest Ponzi scheme in history, at $50 billion. I beg to differ with that assessment. The United States has financed debt with debt since the late 1980s, when its external debt/GDP broke the 0 mark. Since then, it has risen to over 100% of its GDP (which in itself is quite artificially inflated because of manipulated hedonics-adjusted inflation figures), and now stands at $13 trillion. That is what's called a debt bubble. Bernie who?
But the debt bubble appears ready to collapse. The pyramid scheme is finally running out of investors, and many Treasury ETFs (like SHY, TLT, IEF, and IEI) are showing classic parabolic topping patterns and the next few weeks should confirm or deny my suspicions. Interest rates are at an obvious floor at zero, so there is nowhere to go but up. That means bond prices have nowhere to go but down, and the falling prices will cascade into more selling until the debt bubble deflates and all the spending is financed by quantitative easing. Judging by gold backwardation (discussed later) and the bearish charts on the bubbly debt ETFs, I think the debt monetization and dollar devaluation will begin within the next six weeks. The ProShares UltraShort Lehman 20+ Year Treasury Bond ETF (TBT) and ProShares UltraShort Lehman 7–10 Year Treasury Bond ETF (PST) are good ways to play this debt-market collapse.
With an insolvent public and no foreign demand for Treasuries, the Federal Reserve will monetize debt to finance its continued bailouts and economic stimulus. This is purely created capital pumped right into the system. This is not anything new for the Fed — for the past two decades, it has kept interest rates artificially low and created massive artificial wealth in the form of malinvestment and debt financing. In the past, the Fed has been able to funnel the inflationary effects of its expansionary monetary policy into equity values with its low rates, which discourage saving, causing bubble after bubble. The excess liquidity was soaked up by the stock market, which gave the appearance of economic growth. With inflation being funneled into equity and real estate over the last two decades, illusory wealth was created and the public remained oblivious to the inflationary risk and the great disparity between real returns and nominal.
Now that the "artificial-wealth bubble" of the past two decades is finally collapsing, one of two scenarios can occur: capital destruction or purchasing-power destruction. Capital destruction occurs when the monetary supply decreases as individuals and institutions sell assets to pay off debts and defaults and savings starts growing at the expense of consumption, otherwise known as deleveraging. This is deflation and the public immediately sees and feels its effect, as savings accounts, equity funds, and wages start declining. Deflation serves no benefit to the Federal Reserve, as declining prices spur positive-feedback panic selling and bank runs, and debt repayments in nominal terms under deflation cause real losses.
Purchasing-power destruction is much more desirable by the Fed. Its effects are "hidden" to a certain extent, as the public doesn't see any nominal losses and only feels wealth destruction in obscure price inflation. It breeds perceptions of illusionary strength rather than deflation's exaggerated weakness. The typical taxpayer will panic when his or her mutual fund goes down 20% but will probably not react to an expansion of monetary supply unless it reaches 1970s price-inflationary levels. In addition, the government can pay back its public debt with devalued nominal dollars, which transfers wealth from the taxpayers to the government to pay its debt. Inflation is essentially a regressive consumption tax, which the government wants and the Fed attempts to "hide." Not only is the Treasury's debt burden reduced but the government's tax revenues inherently increase.
The Fed, in an effort to minimize inflationary perception, has for the last two decades supported naked COMEX gold shorts to keep gold prices artificially low. The Fed, as well as European central banks, unconditionally supported these naked shorts to deflate prices and stave off inflationary perception, as gold prices stay artificially low. This caused gold shorts to be "guaranteed" eventual profit, by Western central banks offering huge artificial supply whenever necessary, causing long positions in gold to be wiped out by margin calls and losses.
Now that the economy is contracting, the Fed won't be able to funnel the excess liquidity into equities or other similar assets. It also can't allow the unprecedented excess liquidity of today to be directly injected into the economy, as that would be immediately very inflationary, with more than three times the money chasing the same amount of goods, technically leading to 300% price inflation. These figures are strictly based on monetization of the Fed's current liabilities, not including any future deficit spending (which is sure to dramatically increase, especially with Barack Obama's policies), the American external debt, or unfunded social programs that need payment as Baby Boomers retire.
In order to funnel the excess liquidity into a less harmful asset, the Fed appears to be abandoning its support for gold naked shorts, causing shorts to suffer their own margin calls and cause rapid price expansion in gold. On December 2, for the first time in history, gold reached backwardation. Gold is not an asset that is consumed but rather stored, so it is traditionally in what is called a contango market, meaning the price for future delivery is higher than the spot price (which is for immediate settlement). This is sensible because gold has a carrying cost, in the form of storage, insurance, and financing, which is reflected in the time premium for its futures. Backwardation is the opposite of contango, representing a situation in which the spot price is higher than the price for future delivery.
On December 2, COMEX spot prices for gold were 1.99% higher than December gold futures, which are for December 31 delivery. This is highly unusual and it provides strong evidence for the theory that the Fed is abandoning its support for gold shorts. Backwardation represents a perceived lack of supply (in this case, the artificial supply the Fed would always issue at strategic times no longer exists), causing investors to pay a premium for guaranteed delivery. I consider gold's backwardation as a leading indicator to a dramatic increase in prices. In fact, crude began its most recent backwardation in August 2007 at around $75/barrel and increased dramatically over the next nine months to $133/barrel at contango levels.
"Inflation is essentially a regressive consumption tax, which the government wants and the Fed attempts to hide."
But why would the Fed abandon its support for naked COMEX shorts? The unique nature of gold and precious metals provides its desirability in this Fed operation. Gold has little utility except as a store of value, unlike most commodities (like oil, which is consumed as quickly as it's extracted and refined), so its supply/demand schedule has unusual traits. Most commodities and assets go down in price as the public loses capital, because the public has less to consume with and that is reflected in demand destruction that leads to price deflation. Gold is not directly consumed and has much less industrial use than most other commodities.
As a result, gold is relatively "recession-proof," as evidenced by its relative strength in 2008. Gold prices rose 1.7% last year, which is quite spectacular considering equity values went down 39.3%, real estate values went down 21.8%, and commodity prices went down 45.0% in the same period (as determined by the S&P 500, Case-Shiller Composite, and S&P Goldman Sachs Commodity Indices, respectively). Because gold is not easily influenced by consumer spending, highly inflationary gold prices don't do any direct damage to the public and are a good way to funnel excess liquidity without economic destruction.
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is a staunch proponent of devaluing the dollar against gold and is very supportive of President Franklin D. Roosevelt's decision to do so in 1934. In the past, manipulating gold prices to artificially low levels was beneficial because it prevented capital flight into a nonproductive asset like gold and kept production, investment, and consumption high (even if it was malinvestment and unfunded consumption).
Bernanke's continued active support for gold-price suppression would lead to widespread deflation that would collapse equity values and cause pervasive insolvencies and bankruptcies. Insolvency in insurers removes all emergency "backups" to irresponsible lending and spending, which would surely ruin the economy. Bernanke's plan seems to be to devalue the dollar against gold with huge monetary expansion, causing nominal equity values to rise. I've heard estimates of 7500 and 8000 in the Dow Jones Industrial Average as being minimum support levels that would cause insurers and banks to realize massive losses, causing widespread insolvencies in them and other weak sectors like commercial real estate that would irreversibly collapse the economy.
This gold-price expansion, set off by the massive short squeeze, will continue until gold prices reflect gold supply and Federal Reserve liabilities in circulation. The "intrinsic" value of gold today (called the Shadow Gold Price), calculated dividing total Fed liabilities by official gold holdings, is about $9,600/oz, compared to the actual spot price of around $850/oz today. This gold-price calculation essentially assumes dollar-gold convertibility, as is mandated by the US Constitution and was utilized at various periods of American history.
The US dollar's strength as the equity and commodity markets collapsed was due to deleveraging and an effect of the Fed's temporary sequestration of dollars, taking dollars out of supply. That is over. Oil seems to be putting in a bottom on strong volume, no one is left to buy any more negative real-yield securities the Treasury is issuing, and gold has started looking very bullish.
But a good speculator always considers all situations. Even if deflation is to occur, which I see as next to impossible, the price of gold should still rise to $1,500/oz levels next year, because it has shown relative strength as one of the most viable assets left to invest in. In addition, the short squeeze occurring in gold will provide substantial technical price expansion, even in the absence of dollar devaluation. A rise in nominal values in deflation represents an ever greater rise in real values, so I think gold's price ascent in real terms will be nearly identical in inflation or deflation.
I see the market breaking down from these levels to about the November lows, with commercial-real-estate stocks like Simon Property Group (SPG), Vornado Realty Trust (VNO), and Boston Property Group (BXP) leading the way, as well as retailers like Sears Holdings (SHLD). I recommend short positions (including leveraged bear ETFs) against these stocks for the very near term. If the market indeed breaks down but shows bouncing/strength around 7500–8000 in the Dow Jones, that would confirm to me that the Fed is able and willing to inflate its way out of this crisis and I will sell my bearish positions and buy into bullish gold positions.
Because in inflation the dollar is devalued, I am a proponent of owning bullion and avoiding gold ETFs, but I do believe gold and gold-miner stocks will provide great returns over the next few years. Royal Gold (RGLD), Iamgold (IAG), Jaguar Mining (JAG), Anglogold Ashanti (AU), Newmont Mining (NEM), Randgold (GOLD), Goldcorp (GG), and Barricks (ABX) are among my favorite gold equities at this early stage in the process.
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I leave you with this, a quote from Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke about President Franklin D. Roosevelt's 1934 Gold Reserve Act, which was the greatest theft of wealth I'm aware of in American history:
The finding that leaving the gold standard was the key to recovery from the Great Depression was certainly confirmed by the U.S. experience. One of the first actions of President Roosevelt was to eliminate the constraint on U.S. monetary policy created by the gold standard, first by allowing the dollar to float and then by resetting its value at a significantly lower level … With the gold standard constraint removed and the banking system stabilized, the money supply and the price level began to rise. Between Roosevelt's coming to power in 1933 and the recession of 1937–38, the economy grew strongly.
Ecco il mio pensiero zio Barbero.
Il Folletto
Troverei utile la pubblicazione di qualche modello matematico seguito dai maggiori economisti spiegato in dettaglio, suggerirei una sezione education per il blog
Per Folletto:in italiano no vero?
non si parla più di ribasso.Le importanti posizioni short da aprire tra il 7 e il 20 aprile sono state un azzardo.Il mese di aprile si sta chiudendo con congestione e distribuzione dei prezzi.Il mese di maggio porterà il rischio tanto di una discesa che di una ulteriore salita.Chi come me ha acquistato 100 etf short su sp/mib con l'indice a 18100 ... aspetta o liquida in perdita?
Non ci vuole tanto a capire che la crisi è vera e la recessione a L .Le industrie hanno capacità produttive in eccesso, la domanda di beni è già satura da parecchio (abbiamo comprato tutti più di quello che ci serve, 2/3 auto - 4/5 telefonini 2 ciclomotori 2/3 pc etc).Le banche hanno prestato soldi a tutti e tutti li hanno spesi (casa più bella o seconda casa , vacanze , lussi di ogni tipo a rate). L'edilizia ha speculato sul povero consumatore con prezzi delle case in continua ascesa.Mi dite voi , le industrie, le banche, i costruttori a chi devono vendere ora? che utili faranno?.Io credo che, fortuna loro, riusciranno forse a sostenere i costi per un pò, ma tutto dovrà ridimensionarsi... QUELLO CHE STIAMO VEDENDO SUI MERCATI E', vorrei tanto sbagliarmi, IL BALZO DEL GATTO MORTO!!!
Non credo la domanda sia satura, bisogna trovare il giusto prezzo.
Il rimbalzo del gatto morto finiva a 18400, questo è un sospiro di sollievo.
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